Episode 4 – Red and Black DNA, Blood, Kinship and Organizing with Kim Tallbear

In this episode, Eve Tuck interviews Kim Tallbear, a scholar who focuses on Indigeneity and technoscience as part of the Faculty of Native Studies at University of Alberta. Tallbear is a member of the Sisseton-Wahpeton Oyate in South Dakota and is also a descendant of the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma.  Highlights in the discussion include ideas on kinship, the ways that race and blood have been constructed differently for Indigenous and Black peoples in settler nation-states, and Eve asking possibly the longest podcast interview question ever. Tallbear speaks to the connections between the police killing of Philando Castile in St. Paul, MN, and the Indigenous peoples who have lived in what is now the Twin cities since time immemorial.  

I resent what the violence of the settler state has done to us, what it has done to descendants of people from Africa, and what it is doing globally. I am really resentful of the fact that the resources of our ancestors and Indigenous peoples throughout the Americas are being used to destroy other societies and to destroy landscapes and waterscapes around the world.
— Kim Tallbear

Eve Tuck (Unangax) is Associate Professor of Critical Race and Indigenous Studies in the department of Social Justice Education at OISE, The University of Toronto.